UTS Subject Review: 75403 Commercial and Estate Practice

I did Commercial and Estate Practice  (75403) this Spring 2010 semester.

Learning Structure: 5/5

1 hour lecture and 2 hour tutorial per week.

I attended the lectures and got something out of them, but most people find that going to or listening to the lectures is not particularly necessary. There is a guest lecture halfway through the semester on Industrial Relations – this seems really out of place in the subject, and really you don’t need to focus on it much (I don’t think it was even in the exam at all).

Going to the tutorials is really helpful, especially if you are in Jenny’s class. She pretty much guides you through what Practice File and Will and Probate – and does so very efficiently so that you often finish before the 2 hours is up. This is great, because she just lets you either leave or stay behind and catch up on some Practice File work.

Staff: 4/5

The 1 lecturer is Jenny Eggleton. She is a good lecturer and her lecture notes (lengthy Word doc files) for each lecture are great! They have a lot of detail and flesh out everything in the lecture slides. She does answer questions on the Discussion Board, but I find that she tends to just point you in the direction to look, rather than just telling you the answer (which is fair enough).

There’s several tutors and I had Jenny. Jenny is really approachable and helpful for your Practice File and Will and Probate assignment. She goes through each step exactly as in the Week-to-Week guide and often finished before the 2 hour tutorial is up. She then gives you the choice of either leaving or staying behind to work on Practice File. Even though the class finishes early, she stays the full 2 hours, so she is available in case you want to ask her a question.

Amount of Readings: 3/5

  • Jenny’s lecture notes
  • College of Law Papers

Jenny’s lecture notes are very comprehensive so essentially, I think all you need to do is listen to her lectures and read her lecture notes. I did the additional thing of reading the COL papers.

Reading Jenny’s lecture notes and the COL papers can take a long time. The COL papers can be REALLY long and unnecessarily detailed. The approach I took was to skim read/underline the COL papers and then use it to flesh out my lecture notes (made from listening to the lectures and reading her lecture notes). In particular, the COL papers on wills, probate, administration etc were REALLY draining to go through.

Assessments: 4/5

  • Practice File (35%): as with Property Transactions, not a difficult assignment to do, especially with Jenny’s week-by-week guidance and feedback.
  • Will and Probate (15%): this is an easy assignment. I was in Jenny’s class and she pretty much goes through exactly what you need to write/put in your Will in the tutorial class. Also, the markers give quarter marks (!) so even if you have an error or two, it won’t cost you too much.  
  • Exam (50%): as with Property Transactions, this is where I lost the most marks (compared to the other assessments). It’s a combination of multiple choice and a bunch of  short answer questions. I found this exam harder than Property Transactions.

Cons of this Subject:

  • Managing reading the COL papers – especially the Wills half of the semester.

4 comments for “UTS Subject Review: 75403 Commercial and Estate Practice

  1. sk
    January 22, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Hi Tutortales, I recently finished my HSC and got an offer to study combined business/law at UTS but as I mite transfer to UNSW or USYD law after 1 year could u please give me advice on which first year subjects i should take (both in terms of that subject being accredited at unsw/usyd and also how hard it is to get a distinction/high distinction in that subject).
    At the moment I have chosen the following subjects:
    Semester 1: Perspectives on Law, Integrating Business Perspectives, Accounting for Business Decisions A
    Semester 2: Legal Method and Research, Marketing Foundations, Managing People and Organisations, Accounting for Business Decisions B (or maybe torts/criminal law/contracts instead-but not sure about this)

    ALSO-could u also please advise me of the best lecturers and tutors for these subjects.
    Thank You So Much In Advance-Any of your advice/recommendations would be greatly appreciated =)

    • tutortales
      January 30, 2011 at 5:41 pm

      Hi sk, congrats on your business/law offer. I’m sorry, but I honestly do not know much about subjects being accredited in the case of transfers (having never transferred or looked into transferring). From what I’ve heard, UNSW splits subjects like Contracts into two semesters (so, Contracts 1 in Autumn, then Contracts 2 in Spring semester), whereas at UTS, Contracts is just done in one subject in one semester. So if you’re planning on transferring, I would suggest NOT doing the substantive law subjects (torts, crim, contracts) in the first year and it maybe be quite different from uni to uni. However, my key advice is to ask someone who has previously transferred after 1st year.

      Regarding D/HD in subjects, I found it quite easy to get Ds in Legal Method and Research and Law of Torts. For Perspectives on Law, I didn’t try very hard (because the subject is quite boring) and Criminal Law isn’t quite my forte. It really depends on person to person. In first year, I was pretty much feeling my way around Law and having fun with the experience of uni. Other people I know really excelled and I’m not sure if that’s because they were just working super hard to be able to transfer in 2nd year.

      Sorry, regarding best lecturers and tutors, I can’t really say since it was a while ago… In retrospect though, the lecturers/tutors did get MUCH better as you advance through the Law degree (best in 3rd year+). Generally, none were particularly good in the first 2 years.


  2. sk
    January 29, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Hi Tutor Tales,

    I was wondering if u could pls reply soon because If Im going to change my first yr subjects then I need to do it ASAP since places ar efilling up really fast.


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